No trace remains of the chapel of Osbernystun, which seems to have escaped the notice of the successive compilers of the statistical accounts of the parish, and but for the painstaking zeal of our Roman Catholic predecessors its very name would have perished. Indeed, with but questionable taste, the name of the ancient manor, claiming an antiquity of at least six hundred years, was some fifty years ago changed by a parvenu possessor to "Douglas Park," with but little success, for old names of places retain a strong hold of the Scottish ear. ANGLO-SCOTUs. "JOLLY AS SANDBOYS" (3rd S. ix. 278, 331.)This saying in all probability arises from the sign "The Jolly Sandboys," thus described by Dickens in the commencement of the eighteenth chapter of the Old Curiosity Shop : "The Jolly Sandboys was a small roadside inn of pretty ancient date, with a sign representing three sandboys increasing their jollity with as many jugs of ale and bags of gold, creaking and swinging on its post on the opposite side of the road." This was the place where, as your readers will no doubt remember, Codlin evinced such extraordinary anxiety about-himself. Whether the sign be a fiction of Dickens or not, I know not. It does not figure in Hotten's History of Signboards. However, if not a real sign, Dickens' works are quite popular enough to have made it a known sign; and there are many similar ones-e. g. "The Jolly Millers," "The Jolly Postboys," "The Jolly Toper," "The Jolly Butchers," "The Jolly Farmer," &c.-all, I imagine, from "potations pottle deep." This explanation seems much more simple and natural than to understand it to mean with MR. BLUNDELL, that "the occupation" of sandboys, from "digging in sand and gravel pits, must be peculiarly healthful and exhilarating"; or, with MR. WARREN, that it comes from the insect "sandboy, which hops and leaps about in a manner strongly suggestive of jollity." Were MR. WARREN's idea correct I think we should rather have had "merry," as" As merry as a grig.' For jolly, jollity, are words generally denoting (at least now-a-days) social mirth more than anything-e. g. a jolly picnic, a jolly party, a jolly ball, a jolly dog (i. e. one whose convivial qualities are great). ERATO HILLS. Trin. Coll. Camb. SIR THOMAS LUCY: HIS STAR-CHAMBER PROSECUTION FOR DEER STEALING IN 1610 (3rd S. xii. 181, 234.)-John Cuthbert, rector of Rock in Worcestershire from 1560 to 1565, married in 1561 Margaret Hathway. Could this lady be connected with Anne Hathaway of Stratford? A prosecution in the Star Chamber was instituted by Sir Thomas Lucy, 8th James I. against persons from Rock for stealing deer at Sutton Park, near Tenbury, as described in a former num ber of "N. & Q.," on which I ventured to make some comments. The name of Hathway leads me to conjecture that Shakespeare may possibly have visited at Rock, and become directly or indirectly connected with these raids on Sir Thomas Lucy's deer. THOS. E. WINNINGTON. "RARE-OVERS FOR MEDDLERS" (4th S. iv. 507; v. 25.)-This is a common saying in Ireland as generally expressed as "layovers for meddlers, an answer to over-curious children, &c., but it is and crutches for lame ducks." I have not seen the latter appendage noticed by any of your correspondents. H. A. Portsmouth. HUGHES BALL HUGHES: THE "GOLDEN BALL" (4th S. iv. 520; v. 92.)-MR. BATES will find a characteristic portrait of this singular individual in the first series of Captain Gronow's Reminiscences, 1862. EDWARD F. RIMBAULT. THE CHRISTMAS KING AT DOWNSIDE COLLEGE, NEAR BATH (4th S. iv. 505; v. 107.)-FATHER SCHNEIDER'S communication is very interesting, but for a boy bishop we need not look so far as privileges of the Episcopus Puerorum at Sarum Mayence. An account of the ceremonies and may be found in so ordinary a source of information as Hone's Every-Day Book. See also Dodsand the Works of John Gregorie (a canon of worth's Account of Salisbury Cathedral, 4to, 1814, Salisbury), 4to, 1684. The office of the boy bishop is, we believe, in the Processionale. MOLINI AND GREEN. 27, King William Street, Strand. DESIGNATION OF CHIEF JUSTICES: THE WORD "LORD" (4th S. v. 143.)-I read the communication of R. C. L. under this heading with intense astonishment, some amusement, and no little regret. Through completely misunderstanding The Times, your correspondent has entirely misrepresented it. The custom referred to by the reviewer, who has so dreadfully "exercised" non-existent one of prefixing to the name of the R. C. L.'s sense of accuracy, was surely not the Lord Chief Justice of England a title which he does not possess, but of conferring the right to the title. For at least a century the Lord Chief Justice has been made a peer on, or soon after, his appointment. The names of Lords Campbell, Tenterden, Ellenborough, and Kenyon occur to me at once as evidence. It is this custom that is changed, the peerage either not having been offered to Sir Alex. Čockburn or having been declined by him. It must of course be admitted that it does not follow that he should take the title of Lord Cockburn on being made a peer; but he could hardly choose a better one. I do not defend the good taste of The Times' paragraph; but in the name of justice, and for the credit of "N. & Q.," pray insert this protest against its being stigmatised as a "gross blunder." Again, your correspondent, besides having sadly wasted his thunder, is not absolutely perfect in his disquisition on the word Lord. If "the Mayor of London, as chief of all the mayors of England," were the Lord Mayor (which he is not, being the Lord Mayor of London), how would R. Č. L. explain the existence of a Lord Mayor of York? G. M. G. I learned at school, I know not in what book, "the Chief Justice is styled Lord both on and off the bench." In The State Trials he is designated Lord Chief Justice when on the bench; but in the trial of the Earl of Somerset, in the Lord High Steward's Court (vol. iv. edit. 1719), he is "Lord Coke," and in the documents published by Mr. Amos about the same trial he is "Lord Coke." Lord Hale, Lord Holt, are familiar names, and Lord Bacon's designation when he was Lord Keeper has not been superseded by his peerage of Verulam. W. G. R. C. L. is rather rash in denouncing the alleged "gross blunder" on the part of The Times. If he turns to Lord Campbell's Lives of the Chief Justices of England, he will find the following words in the preface: 46 Many of our most important and interesting legal worthies never held the Great Seal. Some of them-as Lord Coke and Lord Hale-had not the offer of it, from the preference naturally given to mediocrity; and others -as Lord Holt and Lord Mansfield-resolutely refused the offer." JUSTICES OF THE PEACE (4th S. v. 118.)—There are no published lists of justices of peace such as your correspondent requires. Many lists of the kind exist in manuscript in the British Museum and elsewhere; but none of them, as far as I am aware, go back to very early times. Mr. Brewer's Calendars of Letters and Papers of the Reign of Henry VIII. furnish some lists of justices for that period. The earliest printed list I have seen is "The Names of the Justices of the Peace of England and Wales, as they stand in the Commission in their several Counties this Michaelmas Terme, 1650. 12mo. London, 1650." A similar list was published after the Restoration, entitled "A List of Justices of Peace confirmed at the Restoration. 12mo. London, 1660." Both these are in the British Museum. I think there is a similar catalogue published in the reign of James II.; but I have never seen a copy, and do not know where one is to be found. EDWARD PEACOCK. CHANGING THE FIRST LESSON IN THE CHURCH SERVICE (4th S. v. 146.)-This mistaken notion has often been corrected. The admonition prefixed to the second book of Homilies must always have been of doubtful legality, for the Act of Uniformity, 1 Eliz., refers to certain lessons to be read on Sundays. But since the Act of Uniformity of Charles II., which embodies, as part of itself a "Calendar of Proper Lessons for Sundays and Holydays," there can be no doubt the Church dignitary was wrong. W. G. MR. LLOYD says that the Homilies give the minister the power of selecting the first Sunday lesson. Now in my book of Homilies, published in 1828, there is this N.B.: "The latter part of the foregoing admonition, relating to the change of lessons, in certain cases, at the discretion of the minister, is now entirely superseded by the Act of Uniformity," &c. HENRY WARREN. Flinton Vicarage. LUNCH (4th S. iv. 118, 182.)-May I be allowed to note another instance of a word which must mean either the midday meal itself, or the drink which accompanied it? In a contract, preserved in the chartulary of Arbroath, for " theking the mekil quer with lede" (covering the great quire with lead), it is provided that the plumber is to have a penny each working-day "to his noynsankis." This word Mr. Cosmo Innes renders luncheon. A. M. S. SIR JOHN HERSCHEL AT THE CAPE (4th S. iv. 114.)-Beside Sir John Herschel's astronomical labours at the Cape, he was always ready to give the colonial authorities his advice and assistance on scientific and educational subjects. It is to Sir John the Cape colonists are indebted for the very, perfect system of national education and the sagacity and liberality of Sir George Napier, public schools which they now enjoy, and which at that time governor (circa 1840), and his colonial secretary, the Hon. G. Montagu, enabled him to see carried out. H. H. Portsmouth. PETER POMBAS (4th S. iv. 11.)-SIR THOMAS WINNINGTON inquires after a Dutch painter of this name; but I think he means Peter Porbus or Pourbus, who was born at Gouda in 1510, and died at Bruges in 1583 or 1584. He is celebrated for his altar-pieces and portraits. He painted for the magistrates of Bruges a large chart or picture, on canvas and in oil, of the whole of the territory within their jurisdiction, in which he represented the minutest details. This immense work still exists in the Hôtel de Ville. He was president of the Corporation of Painters at Bruges, but I find no evidence of his ever having been in England. A catalogue of his works is given in Michiel's Histoire de la Peinture Flamande et Hollandaise, tom. iii. His name is mentioned in Wornum's excellent Life of Holbein, but no particulars of his career are given. EDWARD F. RIMBAULT. PORTRAIT OF HOYLE (4th S. v. 118.)—A portrait of Hoyle appears in an old Dublin edition of his work on Whist, published about the middle of the last century. Hoyle appears to have been resident for some time in that city, as his name appears in an old land map of the corporation as the allottee of one or more pieces of waste or water-covered land, formerly called the "North Lots," laid out by that body for reclamation, and granted to different individuals under certain conditions about the year 1738, and now forming the rapidly increasing district of Dublin lying between the north wall and the line of the Dublin and Drogheda Railway. H. HALL. Portsmouth. NAPOLEON I. (4th S. v. 118.)-There is no evidence extant, I believe, to show that Napoleon as general, first consul, or emperor, ever visited Rome. He took Charlemagne for his model, and ordered the pope to restore Rome and certain territories granted in feof, but the sovereignty whereof was in the French crown. He told the pope that the union of religious and civil authority in the popes had proved the source of constant discord; that they had extended their secular dominions under religious pretexts, and that the temporal pretensions of the pope were inconsistent with the preservation of peace amongst the nations governed by France. This act was dated May 17, 1809. Napoleon, who had long before excommunicated himself from the church, was again excommunicated by the pope, with the reservation that no one was to attack the person either of Napoleon or any of his adherents. Pius VII. not being willing to give in, was taken into custody on the night of the 5th and 6th July, and carried off by way of Alexandrie, Mondovi, and the Alps, to Grenoble; whence he was taken back, over the Alps again, to Savona. Pius VII, merely blessed the crown at Napoleon's coronation; but the emperor himself took on him the priest's office of putting it on his own head, as also that of the empress. At Milan he dispensed with the pope, and was satisfied with the services of an archbishop on his Italian coronation. (Scott's Napoleon, ch. xlviii. p. 67.) T. J. BUCKTON. "L'homme propose et Dieu dispose." It was certainly the great emperor and king's intention and wish to visit Rome, but he never did. In 1811 he was on the point of coming. The director of the French academy at the Villa Medici had even received orders to decorate in a sumptuous manner the palace on Mount Quirinal, and these grand preparations, applied to no less a man the architect Stern, who had the management of than the celebrated Danish sculptor Thorwaldsen to mould (which he did in a remarkably short space of time) bassi-rilievi to form the frieze of one of the largest halls in the palace. The subject chosen by the artist was "The Entrance of Alexander the Great into Babylon," but this important conception the modern Alexander never laid eyes on. After the war, it was purchased by Count Sommariva for his villa on the Lake of Como. P. A. L. PIN CUSTOM (4th S. v. 119.)— "No Russian maiden will be left alone with her lover in a room where there is a picture of a saint. To meet a priest on leaving a house is an omen of evil, which can be charmed away only by throwing a pin at him if you are a woman, or by spitting on his beard if you are a man."-Pumpelly's Across America and Asia (Ñew York and London, 1870), p. 417. Hotel de Rome, Nice. S. W. P. TROY HOUSE (4th S. v. 121.)—When Charles I. was at Raglan Castle, he received a present of fruit observed, that he had often heard of corn growing from the gardens of Troy House: whereupon he where Troy was ("Jam seges est ubi Troja fuit"), there. If Troy House was built by Inigo Jones, but he did not before know that fruit was grown whose daughter brought it into the Beaufort it was then the property of Sir William Powell, family on her marriage with Sir Charles Somerset. But I am disposed to think that the front was added to the older fabric, after the Restoration, by the first Duke of Beaufort. DEO DUCE. BEZA'S NEW TESTAMENT (4th S. v. 28, 157.)— In my note on Beza's Novum Testamentum, sive novum Fœdus, I gave “1598” as "the date of the final revision of the work by the hand of Beza himself"; but in the quotation of the Latin date from the Cambridge reprint a c has, by some accident, slipped out of the text, and thus XVIII. stands there in place of XCVIII. The point to which I wished to call attention was not the interpretation of the passage Heb. x. 15-18, for of this I entertain no doubt, viz. that it is correctly given by Dean Alford, as also by Beza in his fifth or last edition, in which he expressly places the apodasis where it ought to be, at v. 17. What I noticed was the confusion that is caused, when writers neglect to specify to which edition of Beza they refer while giving his interpretation of a particular passage. It is true Dean Alford, at Heb. xi. 37, by John Bury. No date appears on the map, but from many coincidences it must have been executed about 1750. LANCASTRIENSIS. A view of this place, showing the beautiful iron notices "Beza, edd. 3, 4, 5"; but at Heb. x. 19 (and I mention this as an instance additional to that given in my first note) he gives an account of Beza's interpretation of the passage, which does not agree with what is found in the fifth or last revised edition of Beza's work on the New Testa-gates which are now placed at one of the enment. (See the Cambridge reprint of 1642.) Original Poems by Charles Kenworthy. Manchestrances to Peel Park, Salford, is the frontispiece to Perhaps your correspondent, who was so obliging as to advert to an edition with the date 1574, may have an opportunity of ascertaining whether Dean Alford is more in accord with Beza's earlier editions. As to the dates given by MR. BUCKTON, they are all to be found in the article on Beza in the English Cyclopædia, where also we have the statement that the Cambridge edition of Beza on the New Testament is "said to be the best." Hollington Rectory. S. A. I had hitherto thought that the authorship of the Epistle to the Hebrews was, at most, a question adhuc sub judice; whence great was my surprise to read in the article under the above heading the following very decided judgment: "whom (St. Paul) he erroneously takes to be the author of this Epistle." Now, if Beza does err in this apprehension, he errs most assuredly in the very best of companythe Greek Fathers, almost to a man, many of the most distinguished of the Latin Church, with such lights as Pearson, Hammond, Whitby, &c., of our own. I have no desire to go into this subject controversially, nor have I a right to calculate upon sufficient space for this purpose in these columns. But being so thoroughly convinced that the preponderance of evidence, external and internal, is so immeasurably in favour of St. Paul as author of the Epistle, before and beyond all who have been named, I hope I may take leave-which I do with great deference-to request the favour of being furnished with the grounds for a statement so very categorical; but which, as it seems to me, is so little open to anything approaching to solid proof. EDMUND TEW, M.A. Patching Rectory. BAPTISMAL NAMES: "SINDONIA" (4th S. v. 173.)-The female name Sindonia be derived may from Sidonius, which occurs in the list of saints given in Ménage; perhaps so called from Sidon. Conf. Medina Sidonia (i. e. Madinat-ul-Shidunah, the city of Sidon) in Spain. R. S. CHARNOCK. Gray's Inn. Sidonia or Sida, meaning a star, was a very common name given to females amongst the ancient Scandinavians. JAMES PHILIPPE. STRANGEWAYS HALL (4th S. v. 148) is one of the mansions within or adjacent to the town of Manchester, given in the large map of that place ter, 1847. C. W. S. - There is published a view of this old hall in — "C. Kenworthy's Original Poems on Miscellaneous Subjects, with View of Strangeways Hall. Manchester," post 8vo. The date I do not know. J. P. EARWAKER. "STILL WATERS RUN DEEP" (4th S. iv. 138, 542; v. 46.) The following passage from one of Herrick's sonnets is perhaps worth quoting in connection with the correspondence about this phrase: "Small griefs find tongues; full casks are ever found Deep waters noiseless are, and this we know: G. M. G. KIT'S COTY HOUSE (4th S. v. 32, 162.) — This monument, by some persons described as a cromlech, and by others, more accurately, as a kistvaen with one side stone removed, may have water on its summit "all the year round," if this statement in Fenton's Tour through Pembrokeshire was based on fact, viz. "in the midst of this convulsed chaos (Plumstone Moun- This work, published in 1811, was dedicated to London. CALEDONIAN FORESTS (4th S. iv. 335, 481; v. 94.)—MR. FALCONER (4th S. v. 94) presses for an answer as to the "great country north and north-west of the Grampians," whether any proof can be got that it was ever covered with wood. To assist in the elucidation of this point, which is an interesting subject of inquiry, I would put the following query as to its geological structure. Does gneiss form the basis of the rocks through the greater part of the district? and if so, I would inquire of some of your correspondents acquainted with the character of that rock, whether it is not a barren and treeless rock ? If this be the case, the question is answered so far as this northern part of Scotland is concerned. Its geological structure did not admit of trees growing there. I have been led to make this inquiry from finding the following statement made by Dr. R. Gordon Latham, author of the article "Caledonia" in Smith's Dictionary of Greek and Roman Geography: "The Silva Caledonia of Ptolemy lies north of the Caledonii, i. e. north of Loch Ness, &c. But this is a country in the heart of the gneiss, where forests can scarcely have existed, except so far as there is a tract of the old red sandstone immediately to the north of Inverness. The true forest can scarcely have lain north of a line drawn from the mouth of the Clyde to Stonehaven, this being the southern limit of the barren and treeless gneiss." I agree with Dr. Latham that we must look to the south of the line to which he refers for the Caledonian forests of which we hear, as I have shown (4th S. iv. 481), so much in all' accounts of Greek and Roman writers who have occasion to refer to the country. CRAUFURD TAIT RAMAGE. DIBDIN'S SONGS (4th S. iv. 359, 488, 571; v. 21, 163.)-Time is a potent champion, and dates are his armour-bearers. 1789 and 1790 were, until 1813 and 1814, the only periods of my life passed with my father in London; and I acknowledge the (venial, I hope) mistakes of 1790 for 1789, and the thirteenth for the twelfth year of my childhood. All my other circumstantialities of Dibdin's "Lamplighter" I deliberately affirm. Pretences of improvisation, incongruous as they were with the old songster's practice and principle, would in the sole presence of a familiar friend and a mere schoolboy have been stopped by their cui bono. EDMUND LENTHAL SWIFTE. QUOTATION WANTED: "SCRIBA, FABER," ETC. (4th S. v. 119.)—The Latin verses for which your correspondent W. F. wants the authority will be found in the London Magazine, March 1749, and are attributed to the unhappy Usher Gahagan, then lying in Newgate, condemned to death for tampering with the coin of the realm. They are thus translated: "Scrivener, mechanic, poet too, Notes, tables, valiant men, I've drawn, I've carv'd, I've dar'd to sing In the February number of the same magazine there are other verses by Gahagan on the acting of Cato by the Duke of Cornwall (afterwards George III.), and further known by a picture of Hogarth's engraved in the folio collection of his works. In spite, however, of immense exertions in his behalf, Gahagan was executed at Tyburn on Feb. 20, 1749, with Terence Connor and Joseph Napham for the same offence. Portsmouth. H. H. CHOWDER PARTY (4th S. iv. 157, 244, 306, 546; v. 163.)—I find, on reference to Fleming and been adopted by the French, vide vol. i. p. 223, Tibbin's French Dictionary, that this dish has Paris, 1854 (English and French), see "Chowder." This is doubtless from their intimate connection with the Newfoundland fisheries, both upon the banks and in shore. The chowder of St. John's is justly celebrated, and I have frequently heard some of the old inhabitants of that island speak of Commodore John Elliot's chowder pic-nic in 1786, which was given in honour of H. R. H. Prince William Henry, his late majesty William IV. The prince at this period was in command of H. M. S. Pegasus, upon the Newfoundland station. JAS. JNO. MURRAY. The cathedral at Gloucester is commonly spoken of by the inhabitants of that city as "the College.' The King's School (Hen. VIII.) attached to it is commonly known as the College School. The open space in which the cathedral stands is called the College Green; and the courts leading to it are called the College Courts. How long the cathedral has been so called I do not know, but I believe from time immemorial. The cathedral, as is well known, was the church of the abbey of St. Peter. But it appears there was a college of priests over, or near, the west gate of the abbey, since it is stated, in the account of Bishop Hooper's martyrdom, that the place appointed where he should die "was neere unto the great elme tree over against the College of Priests, where he was wont to preach." The courts before mentioned, however, are on the south side of the green, and at some distance from the west P. gate. Temple. BURNS'S "GALLANT WEAVER" (4th S. v. 117.) Burns's song "Where Cart rins rowin' to the was written expressly for Johnson's Scots sea |